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this fixed. get everybody in the room and you fix it. >> okay! >> is it just that easy? >> lindsey graham says that the president has called him -- >> the president had conversations with republicans and democrats. >> -- and wants to do a big budget deal. >> a new hope for a bigger bargain. >> there's a caucus of common sense out there. >> you are lying here! >> don't just sit is there and call me a liar. >> no! >> there is a caucus of common sense here. >> why are you yelling? >> okay! >> i'm not saying yes. i'm just not saying no. >> i think i know how to recycle those old bush 2000 yard signs. >> bush may actually be running. >> he is very serious about the idea of running for president. >> we can't continue to make illegal immigration an easier path than legal immigration. >> he's backing down on moderation. >> a path to citizenship, which i would support. >> and trying to prove his conservative bona fides. >> i don't see how you do it. we wrote this book last year. i have supported bo both. >> left to right, left to right, he's starting to look like mitt romney. it's not a good place
about. >> senators john mccain and lindsey graham's scathing response to paul's nearly 13-hour -- >> i thought it was rather insulting for the way that these gentlemen responded to this. >> your words, senator, john mccain and senator lindsey graham fighting vehemently to defend president obama's policy. it was a little disorienting. >> joining me right now is senator bernie sanders of vermont, a member of the senate budget committee. sir, good to have you here. we start with what politico is putting out as the headline. grand bargain back with a question mark. we look at what paul ryan said after lunch with the president, where i think hope is being borne from. everyone needs to be part of this conversation. we need an open debate about how best to balance the budget and expand opportunities. so, sir, outside of the lines of the continuing resolution coming out of the house side. what you month would you guesstimate that we mae get the grand bargain? >> the issue is not the grand bargain. the issue is what's in the grand bargain. when you have growing inequality, 100% of all new incom
, kelly ai yacht, lindsey graham. stoo several republicans in recent days. senator graham on tuesday described his phone call as and i'm quoting, the most encouraging engagement on a big issue i've seen since the early years of hissed. si. get that man an extra glass of his favorite reislin. a continuing resolution that led to democratic outrage on the floor. >> this is a disgraceful bill. and this process is not on the level. we have a budget that is doubling down on grinding down on the middle class. >> wall street is celebrating while the backs of poor people are been broken. this is not a rule that should pass today. we should remain snowed out. we shouldn't even be here. snow us out until we can get the right kind of balance. >> despite that clear opposition, it did pass keeping in place the sequester cuts while softening the blow for defense naturally. expected to take it up next week saying they'll oppose the measure without a vote to defund the affordable care act. i guess bitterness is always a dish best served cold. while we're on the subject of last year's leftovers, here
, lindsey graham, intra-party scold got a _#of his own. primary graham. if there was any question about just how tense it might be in the upper chamber, the "new york times" ran this photo showing paul and mccain sharing an elevator ride after the elder senator accused the kentucky sion of disservice. hash tag, awkward. stephanie, we have talked ad nauz yum at this point about the lower chamber and the raucus caucus and how difficult a job speaker john boehner has in his words getting the frogs in the wheelbarrow. but this week i think exposed some serious changes, if not a rift within the elder wing -- the elder sort of establishment wing of the republican party in the upper chamber. not just on sequester but with the rand paul talky filibuster. >> i was pleased see that picture because normally there's a democrat standing there getting a scowl. >> i've been on elevators like that myself. you know, i think that, you know, i appreciate what senator mccain and senator graham were trying to say. under no circumstances are americans at home in danger of getting shot by a drone from the u.s. go
john mccain and lindsey graham, a little wining and dining may help the wheeling and dealing. >> i'd like to congratulate my friend from south carolina for his really best behavior last night at dinner. he was on his best manners and everyone was very impressed. i yield the floor. >> but another dinner guest, senator pat toomey, said the president's plans may be hard to swallow. >> the president still wants to raise taxes a lot and i don't. i think it's a really bad idea. he thinks that's a good idea. so that creates a serious challenge. >> this week we've gone 180. >> a sentiment echoed by house speaker john boehner who welcomes the president to the capitol next week. >> i'm hopeful that something will come out of it. but if the president continues to insist on tax hikes, i don't think we're going to get very far. now, the president did pay for dinner out of his own pocket so the taxpayers did not pick up the tab but it is how to pay down the deficit that is the real issue and, wolf, both sides are nowhere near an agreement on how to cover that check. wolf? >> any more dinner enga
. >> although lindsey graham, i interviewed him earlier this week. he is part of what they call that caucus of common sense, at least on this issue he made it clear he is ready to work out a big picture deal. let me play this little clip. >> i think the only way out is a big deal. republicans are not going to raise revenue to pay for sequestration. and i don't believe we can really do -- >> you mean raise taxes? >> yeah, eliminating deductions and loopholes, count me in for that but put the money on the debt. >> right, that is the framework of a deal that is out there. further revenue coupled with entitlement reform. the reality is what lindsey graham is saying, republicans can't get what they prized most, the entitlement reform that will slow the growth of government without president obama's signature for the next four years. and the only way to get that is by tying it to revenue. and if you think about the president's long-term goals here, accelerating economic growth delivers better outcomes for the key initiatives is critical. and all of these constant land mine explosions are serving
page, and of course, john mccain, lindsey graham, more hawkish republicans who say he did a disservice to the country by questioning the idea of using what they call necessary tactics. >> and rand paul said at the end of this week, he is seriously running for the republican presidential nomination in 2016. >> not a big surprise, he has hinted that in more ways than one to me and others, i'm sure to you, as well. it was pretty obvious as you saw him out on the campaign trail with his father who ran for president this past election cycle. but he was wanting to be the next paul to run. >> it is one thing to hint, one thing to say. he is a blunt guy, doesn't hold back. all right, dana, very good work this week. thank you very much. >>> and a dramatic turn this week, osama bin laden's son-in-law appearing in a federal court this week in new york, very close to where al-qaeda brought down the world trade center towers. sulaiman abu ghaith pled guilty to a plot to kill americans. he was captured abroad. and the decision to take him to new york versus the facility in guantanamo bay is raising
cain and lindsey graham, actually going after him, for his tactics in the substance of what he was doing. let's take a listen to that. >> to say that we would hit them in a cafe with a hell fire missile, first of all, no drones have hell fire missiles anywhere near. they're in yemen and afghanistan. and other places in the world. so, we've done a, i think, a disservice to a lot of americans by making them to believe that somehow they're in danger from their government. they're not. >> to my republican colleagues, i don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that president bush was going to kill anybody with a drone. so what is it? all of a sudden that this drone program has gotten every republican so spun up. what are we up to here? >> and i think mccain actually makes a good point there. rand paul by raising the spector of americans sitting in cafes being struck down by u.s. drones, it most people are not concerned about that. it seems crazy. it seems fringe. and in that way, while rand paul did spark this debate and obviously if you were on twitter last night you know people were
. republican senator lindsey graham says he just spoke with the president by phone. take a listen to what he said. >> i'm very encouraged by what i've seen from the president in terms of substance and tone. he's calling people. this is how you solve hard problems. what i see from the president is probably the most encouraging engagement on a big issue i have seen since the early years of his presidency. >> i'm really sorry to repeat history, but haven't we seen this before? the president compromises. the president goes to extreme lengths and guess what happens? the sequester happens. or there's a fight other the debt ceiling, or the continuing resolution will be brutal. what's the point? >> well, you have got a good point. essentially graham is one of the folks who is saying we have to have more revenues. he said he's open to $600 billion to revenues and the president is trying to reach out and see if that can be done. the situation we're in now is paul ryan has essentially a dog ate the homework kind of budget. nobody has to take responsible for these brutal cuts that make no sense and are
including roy blunt, tom coburn, susan collins, bob porker, lindsey graham, and rob portman. he'll also dine tonight with 11 republican senators at the jefferson hotel and will travel to capitol hill next week to meet with caucuses in both the house and the senate. so far, the good will is being reciprocated. according to senator lindsey graham, what i see from the president is probably the most encouraging engagement on a big issue since the early days of his presidency. senator majority leader mitch mcconnell is all for daytont. >> frankly, i wish he'd done more of that over the years. we've had, all of us, very limited interaction with the president. he's certainly doesn't have to go through me to call on my members, and i'm sure he will, and i encourage him to do so. >> of course, necessity is usually the grandmother of change. despite several weeks of bully pulpit pressure, even the president acknowledged that his hands are tied unless congress decides to cooperate. >> this idea that somehow there's a secret formula or secret sauce to get speaker boehner or mitch mcconnell to say, you k
the temperature down, and it's worth noting senator lindsey graham put this list together. we have a graphic, i believe, of those who will be attending this evening. these are the senators who have been identified really as showing some sort of willingness to listen to compromise. richard burr, tom coburn, pat toomey, to name just a few of those who will be at the dinner tonight. in terms of what gets accomplished, i don't expect a deal from a grand bargain, but, look, there's no ticking time bomb. there is no stark deadline that they are trying to meet for a fiscal fight, which is really different from what we have seen in past weeks. so this really gives them the opportunity to have some type of conversation on these issues that have so starkly divided them. as you point out, it comes against the backdrop of president obama not reaching out enough to lawmakers on the hill, and also against the backdrop of house speaker john boehner saying he's not planning to negotiate with president obama moving forward. so, there is some hope this will begin to move the conversation forward. president obama
are not sure who is paying for this dinner tonight. senator lindsey graham one of the republicans dining with the president. this might be a dr. phil moment. take a listen. >> i see the president reaching out. everybody wants to, you know, be dr. phil about what he is doing. i'm assuming the president wants to talk serious buy about -- seriously about the issues of the day. he will go up to capitol hill. he rarely does that meet separately with all four democrats. same in the senate. first time he has really done that since 2010, shep. >> shepard: this is a new strategy to do, what? >> well, is he sort of going around the leadership. if you look at some the faces that will be there, more rank and file senators like lindsey graham. not people on the list that not there speaker john boehner mitch mcconnell who he hasn't had a lot of progress with. going through some of the rank and file. is he not worried about that jay carney says this is all about trying to find different ways to bring people together. take a listen. >> frankly, i wish he had done more of that over the years. we have had
. lindsey graham offered some background yesterday afternoon. >> the president called senator mccain and myself a couple of weeks ago, and senator mccain was his opponent, as you all thou know, in 2008. i see the president reaching out. the dinner that was supposed to be quiet is sad that it makes news. >> he's right about that. graham's closest friends were on the list. graham also included republican senators who have a particular interest in the budget debate, so that included pat toomey. graham is the only senator up for re-election in 2014. miguel rodriguez was there. vice president biden, not at the dinner. maybe this is the start of a new outreach. in his first term, mr. obama's outreach to republicans was sporadic at best and though the president bristles when that's pointed out -- >> i promise you, we invite folks from congress over here all the time. and when they choose to come, i enjoy their company. sometimes they don't choose to come, and that has to do with the fact that i think they don't consider the optics useful for them politically. >> the fact of the matter i
to senator lindsey graham. >> we're putting the administration on notice. we think that sneaking this guy into the country clearly going around the intent of congress when it comes to enemy combatants will be challenged. if this man, the spokesman for 9/11, is not an enemy combatant, who would be? >> joining me, fran townsend, former national security adviser to george w. bush, also robert behr, jim richards who recovered his own son's body after 9/11, and attorney alan dershowitz. let me start with you, fran, to tee up what's really happened here because this character was first arrested in turkey. i'm not quite sure what he was doing there. then after 33 days he was released because turkish lot said he had to be. then he was flown to jordan. >> let's talk about what we didn't know. he had been in relative safety in house arrest in iran for a decade. why would he have left iran not knowing if he would have been taken into captivity? we don't know why he went to turkey. it seems pretty clear that the turks didn't want to have responsibility for his ultimate sort of how he was handled. and
the charges against abughayt. >> for the lindsey grahams of the world who say gitmo, gitmo gitmo all the time fine, that's a policy choice. for the same people who say military commissions, military commissions, military commissions sorry he can't be charged for support for terrorism which can carry a life sentence because that's disallowed as a legal matter in military commissions. >> this trial now set for april 8th. it should last only a few weeks. shep? >> shepard: doug mckelway in d.c. tonight. thanks. senator john mccain is defending the droning of terrorist suspects overseas saying sometimes it's just not possible to capture them. he is blasting senator rand paul for suggesting the u.s. might use drones on americans in america. the kentucky republican held a 13 hour filibuster the other day calling for the white house to rule out drone strikes in the united states against u.s. citizens not engaged engaged in combat. the next day the white house did just that there is a split in the republican party over. this make no mistake. ' today on "studio b" senator john mccain said it was ludicr
silent? >> reporter: kelly ayotte with fellow republican senators lindsey graham condemned the statement that said the decision clearly contravenes the will of the american people land not go unchallenged. a family member of a 9/11 victim also weighed in. >> my concern is that a guy likes this comes to a civilian court. he is put away. hopefully he would be convicted. but it wouldn't, it's not, it's conspiracy. it's not murder. >> the white house today defended the record of terrorist conviction in federal court. pointing to the times square bomber and the underwear bomber, now both serving life sentencing. >> there is broad consensus across the united states government. at the department of defense. the department of justice. department of homeland security. intelligence community agrees that the best way to protect our national security interest is to prosecute abu ghaith in the court. >> reporter: an officer doubt that it meets the requirement of military tribunal. >> sorry, he can't be charged with material support for terrorism, which can carry a life sentence, because that disallow
issues. the fact that he is saying that lindsey graham has suggested the same thing. paul ryan is sitting at home trying to figure out a way to balance the budget in ten years. >> i think it is a good thing in taking that revenue and putting it and not using it to combat the deficit. >> it sounds like they are saying let's use some of it for deficit reduction. >> that is tiny. >> i guess it is. to me, it seems like the line has been in the last month. it was the line before the revenues got passed. we can't talk about any tax some every time that is invoked in the context of revenue, i will only discuss it in the context of opening up the tax code of being litigated and legislated in which case nothing is going to done. >> if they can figure out a way around it, the bush tax cuts were a lowering taxes because they doubled them on january 1st. if there was a way to make them about combatting the deficit and saying this is a tax hike, i feel like they could be baited into a tax hike. if it is plausible to get more revenue it is going to have to be in the context of calling it something othe
carolina senator lindsey graham and other republicans are criticizing the obama administration, saying abu ghaith should be at guantanamo bay not in a u.s. federal court. >>> an oakland man probably didn't expect his luggage to go through extra security at the airport but tsa agents found 67 pounds of pot in his luggage. the suspect is 21 and had a ticket to south carolina, checked his bags along with the pot, worth about $300,000. tsa called alameda county sheriff's deputies, who arrested the guy. >>> a man who bought a lottery ticket in walnut creek is now $33 million richer. he prefers to remain anonymous. but he spoke exclusively to kpix 5 last night. the previous evening he bought $5 worth of super lotto quick- pik numbers and checked carefully to make sure he had the winning ticket. he says now there's an element of justice. >> just thank god for the justice because i was treated unfair in my work and this is the justice. god does it. >> there you go. the winning ticketholder lost his job of 16 years two months ago and he and his wife were f
lindsey graham of south carolina. "i'm gonna give you one quick statement about, about the dinner that was supposed to be quiet and nobody knew about. just ask yourself this, you've been in this business -- most you of, you know -- a while. it's sad that it makes news. if ronald reagan had dinner with members of the senate or bill clinton, i don't think anybody would have written, you would have a hard time getting your editors to report it. the fact that there is lot of interest in a dinner between president and a handful of republican senators is a pretty good statement about where we're at as a nation. i'm not blaming anybody 'cause it takes both parties to get $16 trillion in debt. it's gonna take both parties to get out." the dinner comes just days after forced spending cuts started taking effect. it also comes as congress works on a temporary spending measure to keep the government funded after march 27th. if you think attending a public university will leave more money in your pocket than a private school listen up. kron 4's vicki liviakis explains why that many no longer b
kentucky. that is the new guard. old guard is mccain, lindsey graham, mitch mcconnell. i got to say, guys, when you look at it, the republicans, conservatives who would you rather have going forward representing you? the new young bucks -- they got it going on. by the way, for the record, mr. mccain after all this came out and said he thought rand paul was wrong for doing what he did. scratching my head all day why don't you embrace the young guys instead of continueed infighting? >> kimberly: it's interesting how it is lined up with who is pro and con versus a display of democracy. so what do you think about it? young guns? young bucks? what does this happen on libertarian island? >> greg: i'm still thinking 12 hours without peeing. that is a leak the white house is happy about. the big story here is not about the old or the new guard in my opinion. it's turning president obama to dean wermer. he is the bad guy in the animal house franchise. it's a movie, actually. obama generally was the cape crusadeer for justice and ho now is perceived as petulant hypocrite. that is what happened. tha
. they have pressed a he pressed and pressed the withohite house get a clarifying statement. >> lindsey graham made it clear to me that in exchange for major entitlement reform, social security, medicare, medicaid, he would support what's called a grand bargain and include major tax reform that could potentially increase tax revenues but you've got to have a big package deal. would you go along with that? >> i don't know what the plan is. i don't know what the list is. i'm serving on the finance committee. we're having a hearing tomorrow. the president's on the air every other whipstitch blaming republicans we just want to eliminate these taxes for the rich. what is he talking about? he's been talking about on the campaign trail shutting down the oil and gas industry in kansas, shutting down agriculture, lending institutions, et cetera, et cetera, all sorts of executive orders and regulations. in terms of tax reform and the loopholes, where are they? what's the plan? where's the list? >> well, would you be able to get into negotiations? >> i'm always ready to get into negotiations. i know numb
heard lindsey graham there say how the cuts affect defense is now a big concern to him and especially to senator john mccain who joined me earlier. >> as you know, meetings at the white house today on the sequester, met for an hour and a half. i mean, do you get the sense -- the sense i get is the american people are fed up, sick of hearing about this, sick of this kind of finger pointing. who do you blame? >> i think everybody can share some of the blame. and i will admit to being a partisan republican. but i believe it is the job of the president of the united states, particularly as commander in chief, when we're talking about the effects on defense here. i believed a year ago that the president should call people into the office and start negotiating. but having said that, i will accept blame, and i think republicans voted for it. but again, i think the president should be leading. and we should be sitting down and really ready to do whatever is necessary to prevent, in my view, a blow to national defense. >> you have been in washington for a long time, and you know, we had jordan
because right now there's no discretion. mitch mcconnell's filibuster -- and john mccain and lindsey graham were screaming for these because they were saying this is a national security emergency. at least give the executive more discretion. mitch mcconnell himself stopped both those bills along with the democratic bill. harry reid said i'll give you two republican bills if you'll just let us vote on this one democratic replace bill. i think that the republican party has allowed the rand paul wing to trump the national security wing. absolutely. >> there's another piece to that, though. the continuing resolution is something that sounds like everybody has agreed not to fight over. in large part, i think from the right because it's going to give the pentagon more leeway to decide where these cuts happen, and so everybody can agree, okay, republicans get what they want. the president doesn't want to renegotiate or relitigate another budget fight three weeks after this one. i just doubt, you know -- i doubt that we're going to actually see any movement on this at all before 2014. i mean
it on this scale. remember, he's had john mccain and lindsey graham for example over to the white house recently to talk about immigration and they also did talk about this sequester. but the president's going to leave the white house, go to a hotel in washington, d.c. there will be more than a half a dozen republican senators there. the president extended the invitation. the republicans apparently came up with a list of who's going to attend. we'll see if they sequester the wine list or free throw the conversation. remember last week, the president was running around the country saying if the budget cuts went into effect -- we've seen in the last 24 hour, going to have dinner with republican senators tonight. going to go up to capitol hill next week and talk to republican senators on their turf. he's also going to go over to the house, republicans control the house of representatives. that's the president's biggest problem right now and he's going to meet with them as well. now, he's done these meetings in the past, but to have it happen so quickly, this quick pivot right after the argument ove
lindsey graham came up with the invite list, and the invite list is not a bunch of moderates. >> there are no moderate republicans. >> conservative republicans. some of his biggest critics and what the president's going to get from them is, okay, if you want a grand bargain, here's what you need to do for us and that's what lindsay graham and john mccain want to do. >> it looks like it's not a late dinner because a bunch of them left. >> early birds. >> appreciate it. >>> just ahead, breaking news. african lion hand raised at a sanctuary devoted to saving exotic cats, an animal on the "ellen" show a while back, killed a 26-year-old woman. we'll get the take on the attack. >>> and a cnn exclusive. the family of reevas steenkamp is speaking out for the first time since oscar pistorius was freed on bail. what they told drew griffin in south africa may change the way you see her killing. we work. we plan. ameriprise advisors can help you like they've helped millions of others. to help you retire your way, with confidence. ♪ that's what ameriprise financial does. that's what the
it together lindsey graham september osent ought a tweet today, he said hope it serves as the beginning of a new paradigm where people in elected office actually talk to each other about meaningful issues. one of the senators who i spoke with said that what struck him was the fact that the president sort of can got to understand better the republicans and the republicans got to understand the president better. and he said that that was even more of a shocker i think to republicans, that the president is actually sincere in where he's coming from. i have a very unsophisticated word to describe this. duh. this is human relationships and it should have been happening for years and years. to understand each other, baseline of that, that has to happen before they can talk across party lines. >> wolf, didn't we have this conversation in 2009 and it had to do with beer and a beer summit and it was sitting down as regular people just like the picture shows you, trying to get over an impasse by just sitting down to either a good meal or a good beer? >> once you establish sort of direct human con
cain and lindsey graham basically affirming the obama administration's position on drones, what it tells me is there's very little question in my mind that what happened yesterday was a very -- which he has been as open as anyone. i'm less convinced this was a great thing for the republican party, more broadly. you know, i think it gets them on questionable ground on an issue in terms of public opinion and an issue that the vast majority of the public isn't interested in. definitely a big moment for rand paul, and where mccain and grah graham. >> against president obama -- kristen welker. rand paul has not given in yet on the 30 hours of debate. it could be saturday morning unless he is pressured to give in. >> underscoring the point. they did write a letter to rand paul answering what seems to be his xheef concern, which is -- >> it's possible that is holding that process up. -- they have last night with republican lawmakers, and they say that the timing is important, andrea, because it came at a time when there's not a countdown clock running. so, in essence, they believe that this is a p
lindsey graham, they accused you of theaterics or political stunt i think senator mccain used. is this a fair debate and how do you respond to that? >> i think it's a good debate. i think they're on the wrong side of history. >> greta: do you mind they called it a stunt? >> i don't admire that kind of add homonym, but they've been arguing you can indefinitely detain a u.s. citizen, i asked senator mccain directly can you send a u.s. citizen to guantanamo bay without a trial forever? and his answer was yes, if i deem them to be a safety risk. problem is that's an accusation, if a government or a politician calls you an enemy combatant, is that enough to whisk you off to guantanamo bay or is that enough to have a drone strike on you? and see, both of these senators argue that america is part of the battlefield for the laws of war apply. well, the laws of war sometimes don't involve due process and i acknowledge that. if soldiers -- if the enemy is shooting at our soldiers, there is no due process involved with that, we shoot back to kill. there are no judges and juries, but amer
did hear from republican senators mitch mcconnell, lindsey graham, among them, criticizing the obama administration for bringing this guy to civilian court. graham said the administration, quote, snuck him in under the nose of congress. do you think that's a valid criticism? >> i'm not sure, but i wantled to amplify and second what john was saying. there's nowhere worse in the world to be an alleged terrorist than in new york's state federal court. the conviction rate in new york state for these kinds of crimes are 100%. the conviction rate at guantanamo is less than 1%. in fact, some of the convictions in guantanamo have actually been overturned and the sentences that have been handed down have been minkuehl because it's time served and whatever country the accused terrorist comes from. so both on the question of the fact that the senators are quite sure that the convictions have been overturned, that very few cases have actually been tried, guantanamo is not a very realistic place to put anybody. >> peter bergen, appreciate you being on, john miller as well. let us know knhawhat yo
lindsey graham. but john mccain starts walling them wacko and wacko birds. the people that were around rand paul around that. mike leigh, ted cruz. is there a change now? is john mccain too far out there and this is the new group that's going to run the senate and the gop? >> i don't know. i like rand paul. he's a very intelligent guy. he made some good points. but he does look -- i hate to say, he can look a little nutty. and anytime anybody talks for 12 hours you're going to look nutty. and it's the old guard who have been ineffective. they've lost the white house. listening to them for the last couple of elections. there's this new guard who i don't think has really accomplished much of anything. you get the middle guard. the middle guard are guys like chris christie. governors, mcdonnell in virginia. governors who have really accomplished things. and those are who we should be listening to. those should be the models for the gop. >> blake, let me ask you the same question. want to add some important names. around rand paul directly that night was mike leigh and marco rubio and ted
, someone who has been demanding answers since day one, senator lindsey graham, senator, welcome back, sir. >> thank you and god bless fox news. >>. >> sean: well, thank you for saying that. i met ty woods father. >> yeah. >> sean: i've got it tell you something, his son gave his life saving other people and we deserve answers. this has gone on too long. when we be able to talk to the survivors, some of the gaps we have can be filled by them, they were there. >> we're going to write a letter, senator ayotte and myself to senator kerry asking him to make survivors available to the congress, the appropriate committees can interview the survivors about what happened that night. six months later, what do we know, sean? we know that the story told by susan rice on 16th of september that the consulate was significantly, substantially and strongly secured has collapsed and we know her story and the president's story, an al-qaeda attack caused by a hateful video that led to a spontaneous riot has collapsed. we know that the story they told us for weeks after the attack no longer holds water. >> se
that raises revenues to lower the deficit. >> talking about lindsey graham on the republican side, because it sounds like he's not talking to the leadership? >> he just had the leadership in on friday. what i think is most important, is we're not just trying to make those calls to read out the names. he's making those calls to see where there might be a coalition of the willing, a caucus for common sense and trying to build trust. he's going to be having a lot more conversations like that because he understands, as i think more and more republicans will understand, that it makes no sense to sit back and watch communities that depend on military spending devastated. it makes no sense to see us lose 750,000 jobs when we could come together in bipartisan compromise if we're all willing to give a little. >> let me ask you about jobs. when do you expect we will see enough jobs created to make a sizable dent in the unemployment rate which has been so stubbornly high. >> well, you know, this is exactly the point we're making. right now you have seen some momentum in areas like housing and auto sa
know about that? >> i know that the senate, particularly lindsey graham, has been tenacious on this they have some documents as well. but, again, this begs the question, why won't the state department just give us what we requested? we're getting to the point, bill, we'll be left with no choice except it issue a subpoena. we don't want to do that but we're already six months into this and we don't have the answer. bill: let me come back to the subpoena. if you have had the talking points from september how would that change the story do you believe? >> we need to find out what led up to the attacks and how we prevent that in future. what went down in the 25 hours during the attack and then afterwards how the administration misled the american people and the world. those are three big buckets. bill: why have you not issued a subpoena? obviously you're frustrated. you're getting nowhere at this point based on your current tactic? why not issue -- >> if it was unilaterally left up to me i would do that and done it months ago. i don't make those decisions. i worked closely with
senator lindsey graham who drew up the guest list suggested afterward there might be room for compromise. >> we've got to do something structurally to save medicare and social security, and republicans agree the tax code is a mess and we can flatten out the tax code, we can raise some revenue to buy down rates and to pay some debt down. >> reporter: the president will have a tougher job convincing republicans in the house where they want to use any savings from reforming the tax code to lower tax rates overall. his charm offensive continues next week when on wednesday and thursday the president goes up to capitol hill to talk to republicans on their own turf for the first time since 2010. jenna: is he going to bring snacks too? if all it tuckus meals. >> reporter: i think he expects them to feed him this time. jenna: it might be appropriate after a couple of free dinners and lunches. we'll continue to watch for the lunch, it will begin around 12:30 eastern time. thank you. jon: fox news alert and some ominous news out of north korea, that country is now threatening a preemptive nuclear s
has nowhere to hide. not in a cafe, not anywhere. >> that was senator mccain and lindsey graham attacking rand paul. this launched a fiery debate on drones in the u.s. we want to bring in our analyst, gloria borger, we talked extensively. what was that last summer here on the president's secret drone program and kill list. i want to begin with you here. senator paul said president obama talking to dana on the same page with him and now we see the answer and have this response via this letter that the answer is no. i love to talk to senator paul and ask him if this is good enough, but i wonder what defines imminent threat. is this nubulous? >> in many ways eric holder's letter was not as target said as it could have been. i think that what you see in this answer is that the u.s. government cannot randomly target american citizens on u.s. soil or anywhere else. what it does not say and i think this is where rand paul probably agrees with eric holder is that you can't rule out targeting an enemy combatant as rand paul said. somebody is going into the capitol with a grenade, of cour
love your optimism. however -- >> brian: lindsey graham and mccain, get there and say, listen, let's start again. let's just start fresh. what do you need? >> steve: should we bet a dollar right now? >> brian: dollar on the line. >> steve: right there. >> gretchen: wait, what are we bit bething on? >> steve: bipartisanship breaks out. >> gretchen: really? that's worth manner a buck to me. >> steve: because the dozen senators he's inviting over have a history of being bipartisan because the president needs to get stuff done. anyway, more on that later on of the we've got breaking news. tv icon, valerie harper, facing a devastating diagnosis. she just revealed she has terminal brain cancer. harper best known for her 1970s role as rhoda on "the mary tyler move" show and her on show" rhoda." she told people magazine she found out about the cancer in january. doctors say she could have as little as three months to live. she previously battled lung cancer in the year of 2009. she's been on this program a number of times. she is a wonderful person. >> gretchen: very sad news. a democrat i
on the table. here's what i think the president is up to. there are senators like lindsey graham who are willing to put more revenue on the table in exchange for entitlement changes, a decade or more away from now. i think that you could see a deal where they do something on new revenues matched with entitlement cuts and then keep the $1.2 trillion covered by sequestration, but reorder them. decide that different programs are going to get cut, maybe more get cut in the out years, say not this year and next year but in the other eight years that are covered by sequestration. you could see that being part of a deal. >> yeah. putting it another way, we're really actually not that far from something that makes sense. if you got another 400 to $600 billion in revenues and you rearranged that $1.2 trillion to include something sensible on entitlements and restore some of these stupid discretionary cuts, you would be at $4 trillion of deficit reduction that a lot of us feel is not all we hoped for but enough to at least sleep at night. >> so where are we? break it down. >> we're right now a
hampshire, tom coburn, oklahoma and lindsey graham. gloria borger joins me live here. much to chew over. speaking of chewing and breaking bread, gloria, why dinner? this is certainly not the way the president did business with republicans during the first term. why this way? >> or with democrats, i might add. not, you know, didn't dos by like this with much of anybody. when you -- remember when the president had the first press conference after his re-election, he was asked about why he didn't have more people over to the white house to socialize, and his answer was, you know what, i played golf with john boehner, we had fun, but it didn't get a budget deal done in 2011, it didn't work. i spoke with a senior administration official who said to me, you know what, there is this myth in washington that if we all sit down around a table, somehow, something miraculous is going to occur and republicans are going to start working with us. so clearly it was something he thought was pretty absurd. so lo and behold, brooke, now we have the president making these phone calls and inviting people to
folks are getting all kinds of jumpy over the fact this will take place in manhattan. senator lindsey graham among them. >> we believe firmly that gitmo, there is no substitute for it, that congress will agree upon, that it is the right place to put an enemy combatant for interrogation and at all possible trial. >> we're going to talk about a little of the politics of that a little later. first, suleman abugathe. tim lister here, executive editor. he wasn't an operations guy, but clearly he was well connected. a son-in-law of bin laden. here he is side by side with him. how did we get our hands on him? >> like an episode out of "homeland". he was skulking around in iran for ten years. got there in 2002. he seems to be very restless. at some point the iranians pushed him or he decided to go. he crosses the border into turkey on a forged saudi passport. the turks horrified, this is the last thing they want. he's in turbish custody for four weeks. the cia alerted the turks he was staying at this luxury hotel in ankara. >> luxury hotel. >> they put him on a plane to kuwait, his land of bi
suck s successfully convicted. >> listen to senator lindsey graham. he himself is an attorney. he's very much opposed to the decision to send him to new york. he thought this was an enemy combatant who belonged in guantanamo bay before a military tribunal. listen to senator graham. >> to the administration, why did you not send this person to guantanamo bay to be held as an enemy combatant for intelligence-gathering purposes? i have been firm against torture but i do believe that guantanamo bay is a secure military facility that provides this country a great asset and we've received a lot of information from guantanamo bay detainees. >> as you remember, the uproar a few years ago when they were thinking of sending sheikh mohammed to be tried before a civil court in new york. that eventually was reversed. what do you think about the pros and cons legally speaking? >> well, it is true that there is a major difference between the two in terms of interrogation. in a criminal court where he is now, he will receive a lawyer who will undoubted he will say, stop talking to prosecutors. do
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